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04-12-2006, 12:17 PM
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Can I add Telephonr module in my PCM?
I have PCM. But with no phone module. Do you guys know if it is possible to retrofit it?
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06-19-2006, 03:39 AM
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Yes, I had it done on my PCM. It was about $2500, too pricy but a neat toy.
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06-19-2006, 02:13 PM
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Have you ordered in a porsche dealer?
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06-19-2006, 02:44 PM
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I'm not quite sure what you mean here ' Have you ordered in a porsche dealer?'
If you mean, did I have the dealer do it? Yes I did. They ordered all the parts and did the install. They thought they would have it done in one day but it took two. This was the first time they had done it.
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05-15-2007, 11:44 PM
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Does anyone have any further information on this?
I have a PCM and the Telephone module is not active/available (according to read-out on display). What is involved to get the phone portion of the PCM working? Anyone know price? Is it really $2500? That seems pretty steep since it would seem that all is involved is a software upgrade and maybe a cell antenna.
Anyone have some insight?
Suneet, this seems right up your alley.
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05-16-2007, 12:10 AM
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Tx, I was actually looking at the wiring diagrams and tsbs the other day (TSB 9155) the other day and it looks like they add a fiber optic phone control module (part number 99704490061, retail price: $1,562.62; this part number includes the antenna, harnesses, screws, etc) that goes under the seat that interfaces with a telephone antenna and the built in mic, you can choose to add a handset as well and connect it to the phone module or just use the handsfree system and PCM numberpad. The phone module connects into the fiber optic loop (you need part number 99762270300, retail price $126.84, those without nav or cd changer need part number 99762270300), allowing you to control it via PCM, or the multifunction steering wheel if you have it. It automatically mutes audio, shows the call in the center display, etc.
So with about $1,700 in parts and a few hours of labor, 460 TU, I havn't figured out how to intrepret Porsche's cryptic labor time markings...but in comparison, the short shifter install is 100TU.
IMHO... not worth it, get the Dension unit and the soon to come bluetooth module, or just add a Parrot or Bluetooth module like others have done. You get hands free talking without having to get a cloned sim-card, separate account for your car, or having to keep switching your sim-card from your phone to your car.
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05-16-2007, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by suneet
Tx, I was actually looking at the wiring diagrams and tsbs the other day (TSB 9155) the other day and it looks like they add a fiber optic phone control module (part number 99704490061, retail price: $1,562.62; this part number includes the antenna, harnesses, screws, etc) that goes under the seat that interfaces with a telephone antenna and the built in mic, you can choose to add a handset as well and connect it to the phone module or just use the handsfree system and PCM numberpad. The phone module connects into the fiber optic loop (you need part number 99762270300, retail price $126.84, those without nav or cd changer need part number 99762270300), allowing you to control it via PCM, or the multifunction steering wheel if you have it. It automatically mutes audio, shows the call in the center display, etc.
So with about $1,700 in parts and a few hours of labor, 460 TU, I havn't figured out how to intrepret Porsche's cryptic labor time markings...but in comparison, the short shifter install is 100TU.
IMHO... not worth it, get the Dension unit and the soon to come bluetooth module, or just add a Parrot or Bluetooth module like others have done. You get hands free talking without having to get a cloned sim-card, separate account for your car, or having to keep switching your sim-card from your phone to your car.
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I knew it was right up your alley. Thanks for the info, I was afraid this was going to be the case. Any idea when the Dension unit will have Bluetooth?
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05-16-2007, 12:24 AM
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Their classic response: Right around the corner  Both GW500 (who I'm pretty sure works at Dension) and Eric@bumperplugs have said it should be shipping soon; I read on another forum (rennteam) that it's supossed to ship sometime this month or next.
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05-20-2007, 04:35 AM
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Instead of the Dension and Bluetooth adapter, does anyone, particularly Suneet have any idea whether Parrot's new MultiCAN interface will work in our Cayman's with the multifunction steering wheel? I don't see any reason why not, but I was hoping someone with more "knowledge" can help me...
Info available at: http://www.parrot.biz/uk/products/parrotmultican
Last edited by landmann; 05-20-2007 at 04:37 AM.
Reason: Added link to Parrot's site.
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05-25-2007, 10:06 AM
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Landmann, the best bet would be to contact Parrot directly... I don't wanna make assumptions. Good luck.
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05-14-2008, 07:36 PM
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Just updating this old thread... everybody either knows or should know that the Tooki phone module is now out and emulates the Porsche phone module while providing you bluetooth. It works with all the features of the PCM tel menu; send\end buttons, including send\end buttons on the steering wheel if you have the multifunction steering wheel.
Sold by sponsor Bumperplugs from around $750, sometimes cheaper during group buys and sales.
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05-15-2008, 03:16 AM
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Does anyone have any new information on the Dension BT adapter?
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05-15-2008, 04:01 AM
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The BTA-1000 adapter they released was not very good, and I hear they are beta testing a new one, the bta-1500; this news comes from Eric @ Bumperplugs, he posted it on 6speedonline.
The fact is, unless Dension went back to the drawing board with this adapter, it will be nothing special. What I mean is, the Gateway 500 simply emulates a cd changer to the PCM, and this complicates matters because they cannot use the built in phone features of the PCM, such as the call coming through no-matter which source you are listening to and the send/end buttons.
They will have to design a whole new component that plugs into the MOST bus, such as the Tooki unit, that emulates the Porsche phone module in order to provide full phone functionality through the PCM.
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05-15-2008, 06:25 AM
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To add another data point. I was just quoted $2300.33 for the phone module installed via my dealer. That's a lot for a system that requires a separate SIM card and has no bluetooth connectivity.
NavTV Tooki looks to be the one to beat but tech changes quickly. mObridge now offers a unit that has both bluetooth and iPod connectivity in one unit.
mObridge Bluetooth | mObridge USA
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05-15-2008, 07:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by suneet
The BTA-1000 adapter they released was not very good, and I hear they are beta testing a new one, the bta-1500; this news comes from Eric @ Bumperplugs, he posted it on 6speedonline.
The fact is, unless Dension went back to the drawing board with this adapter, it will be nothing special. What I mean is, the Gateway 500 simply emulates a cd changer to the PCM, and this complicates matters because they cannot use the built in phone features of the PCM, such as the call coming through no-matter which source you are listening to and the send/end buttons.
They will have to design a whole new component that plugs into the MOST bus, such as the Tooki unit, that emulates the Porsche phone module in order to provide full phone functionality through the PCM.
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The BTA1500 is not it beta phase, it was released weeks ago. I heard it is very hard to get one in US.
The Gateway 500 is capable to simulate other devices on MOST ring, not just the CDC. With BTA1500 connected it simulates CDC for iPod AND also phone.
In terms of functionalities I beleive it beats Tooki. But wait for the first reviews and see yourself.
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05-16-2008, 02:49 AM
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GW500, You're the expert..  I for one am happy it can do so because I use the Dension and am happy with the constant software updates you guys put it plus it works perfectly.
I am looking forward to the reviews...
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05-16-2008, 04:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GW500
The BTA1500 is not it beta phase, it was released weeks ago. I heard it is very hard to get one in US.
The Gateway 500 is capable to simulate other devices on MOST ring, not just the CDC. With BTA1500 connected it simulates CDC for iPod AND also phone.
In terms of functionalities I beleive it beats Tooki. But wait for the first reviews and see yourself. 
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Sounds like the BTA1500 might be worth waiting for. Any idea if its going to be priced in the same range as the BTA1000?
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05-16-2008, 09:40 AM
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ITs hard to imagine that any phone module would be better than the Tooki. Mine works so well with the Porsche PCM TEL screen.
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05-16-2008, 01:33 PM
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ITs hard to imagine that any phone module would be better than the Tooki. Mine works so well with the Porsche PCM TEL screen.
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One example:
If you paired more phones, the SEL-phone1, DEL-phone1, SEL-phone2, DEL phone2 ... etc. entries are shown at the beginning of the phonebook?
That is done differently in BTA1500. First select the item "Phone Off" then "Phone On", and you will see only the paired phones:
Phone1
Phone2
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Then you can "dial" any of those, that phone will be connected.
The "Delete entry" command will also work if you want to delete an item from this list.
I'm not sure but can the Tooki handle 250+ contacts? 1000 for example?
How do you scroll through and find an item in a big list like that?
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05-26-2008, 10:11 AM
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I am looking for something that can integrate into the built-in mic on the steering wheel column. Running a wire for an external mic and placing it anywhere in the cabin is not aesthetically pleasing.
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